“Ugly” chair
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My husband bought a discounted one year Apple TV subscription at Costco last year, which we hardly watched. I happened to ask my husband about it the other night and he clicked into our account and stopped the automatic renewal, which was scheduled to happen at the end of the month. Close call.
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I saw an Instagram reel about how you can ask your credit card companies to waive the annual fee as a “retention offer.” We pay $95/year for an airline credit card, so I thought I’d give it a try. I called customer service and although the employee offered to lower our interest rate for services we don’t use, (cash advances, etc.) he wasn’t able to waive the annual fee as it won’t be charged until June 30th. However, he said to call back a couple weeks beforehand and they’d likely waive the $95.
So yeah . . . that’s in my calendar!
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It took three (very polite) phone calls and two (also polite) emails, but I finally got the Oregon Humane Society to refund the $315 my son overpaid for spaying Mama’s Little Meatball. He’s not able to make personal phone calls while at work, so I took on this task.
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• I treated my friend Lise to lunch for her birthday and we both happened to want their $12 lunch special, which saved me $8. We then drove over to the main Goodwill where I browsed but didn’t buy anything.
• My son still needs dining room chairs for his new apartment and I found two at Goodwill that I thought he’d like. They were priced at just $5 apiece, so I took pictures to see what he thought. He replied they were “ugly,” which saved me $10!
• I’ve been enjoying leftovers on my own over the past couple days, but my husband is off work tonight so I’m planning a taco/tostada bar for tonight’s dinner. Very frugal as I can cook beans in the Instant Pot and I already have all the other toppings. -
I didn’t thrift any tiny Lear Jets.
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1. There was another dump pile at the recycling bins. Why do people do that?????? Anyway, I picked up a puffy coat and a pair of sweat pants to donate and a fake fur jacket my daughter will try to sell. I should have collected more. I hope someone else found things they could use.
2. I had a salad lunch out. I ate 2/3 of it and brought home the rest. I added half a cucumber and a boiled egg and that was dinner.
3. We had movie night at a friend’s house. We took some of the free ice cream we won anð they made popcorn.
You did your due diligence and a kindness by taking a few items, but you are not responsible for other people’s abandoned belongings.
My husband tells me that I take too much responsibility for the solid waste stream in Maryland.
That means you have a good heart. However . . .
Nope – it means that you take the right amount of responsibility, and everybody else is slacking!
Thanks for the chuckles of recognition this sub-thread prompted. I, too, wrestle with not feeling responsible for somehow making sure nothing useful winds up in the landfill. Have to frequently remind myself “we are not a satellite location for the transfer station”.
But it does make one pause and think “why were these items dumped”.
People going through their loved one’s belongings can’t be precious about every little thing, which is my take on how great stuff ends up being donated.
1. I found a penny twice this week.
2. I suggested a tea bag swap among a group of us that meet weekly for charity knitting/crocheting, after a discussion about what people drink. Another member grew it into a more planned event and we held it yesterday. It was fun and it will be nice to try new teas (most herbal and a few decaf, I bypassed the caffeinated teas) without having to buy a box full. I brought tea I already had.
3. We are watching season 2 of Ms Fisher’s Modern Mysteries of hoopla! which is free when you use your library card.
4. I have the front door open for a bit of solar heating.
5. My shoulder has been bothering me so I’m limiting the time I spend on a computer. I set a timer for ten minutes then I get up and do other activities. I am accomplishing a lot. The timer is going off it is time to stop.
Ooh . . . I’m going to have to look up that show!
The costume and set design in Ms Fisher’s Mysteries are just wonderful!
Those chairs are great: proper “French bistro” frames, the classic cross-over bentwood. Usually very comfortable, too. Sure he can’t be tempted???
1. Following yesterday’s exchange about “I want a new kitchen…”, I called the kitchen designer to cancel my design appointment. However, I have negotiated a compromise with myself. I detest my stainless steel sink and tap (faucet). The tap has an open coil of steel around it (design “feature” clearly drawn up by someone who never cleaned a tap in their lives), sooooooo unhygienic and difficult to clean.
So I am going to buy a new ceramic sink and chrome tap, with a new (small) stretch of kitchen worktop. My biggest hate is removed and, since it’s a sink with a much smaller footprint, I claw back at least two feet extra of worktop space. Not as non-consumer as I should be, but waaaaay better than £20k on a new kitchen. And I feel at peace with the compromise.
2. I have had terrible sciatica since September. It was 90% improved by early December and then the dreaded “White Van Man” rear-ended my car and set back my sciatica recovery. Instead of going to the chiropractor again today when it was causing me gip, I got up early, went for an hour long walk, came home, did some yoga stretches and some physio exercises. Much better. Too easy to abdicate responsibility for my own recovery and to incur unnecessary costs.
BTW, “ White Van Man” means someone (well, male) who drives a white van, not someone white who drives a van.
Here’s a van:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_van_man
3. I made a delicious celeriac and bacon soup yesterday with lots of odds and ends of food in the fridge. Had some for lunch and enough left as a starter for lunch tomorrow with my brother and his husband.
4. Went nowhere today, other than my walk this morning, so no spending by accident!
5. I hate ironing. When I worked long hours, I never had a cleaner but I always paid someone to do my mountains of ironing. Now I’m retired: I wear very few items which need ironing but…I do the ironing myself. I can feel the disbelief from here, that doing my ironing myself counts as frugal. But, given how much I hate it, it still feels like I take one for the team! But I did it. Yayyyy me.
It’s okay for him to have his own vision. He’s very interested in design and decor.
And I say that doing your own ironing counts as frugal, just like me maintaining my own yard and landscaping does.
My first few months of marriage I ironed long-sleeve shirts for my husband. Then he complained about the crease line on the sleeves. I did one laundry’s worth of ironing his way –folding and turning the sleeves as I went so it would leave no crease line. A few days later I visited the in-laws and mentioned that I wasn’t keen on him being spoiled by her ironing method. She said, “Oh, I never did his ironing, he’s too picky! He’s able and free to do his own.” First true bonding moment of me and m-i-l.
Denise, my solutions to the ironing problem have been (a) to give up owning or wearing anything that *really* needs ironing, and (b) to learn to live with a few wrinkles in things. I ditched both my ironing board and my iron last year, and haven’t looked back.
I am with you about not owning things that need ironing and/or not caring if there are wrinkles. I would ditch the ironing board but for husband’s singing performances he has to apply a higher (more civilized?) standard to his outfits. He does not like ironing so I do it. The trade off is that he sticks his hand down the garbage disposal when there is a problem; even when the circuit has been turned off the one time I was forced to muck around in there, I feared it would find some way to roar back to life and chew off my hand.
I hate ironing too. My mom used to make us all take turns ironing. I don’t know why I hate it so much. Good thing Hubby doesn’t mind doing it.
I hate ironing so much I limit it to around twice a year or so. I have an old clothes basket where I throw everything that needs to be ironed. When the conditions are right…rainy afternoon, no plans, energy to stand for hours…I iron everything in the basket. Repeat every 6 months or so.
I don’t mind ironing but I don’t do it often – used to do Mom’s ironing for a bit of allowance, mostly Dad’s office sheets (he was a GP, in the old days they used the same drape for the day, none of this non-frugal paper for those solidly healthy citizens!). Also his handkerchiefs, of which I think he used at least 3 a day. I liked to iron all of those, there was something very satisfying about it all. Easily soothed my chaotic kid energy.
Mom’s story of the ironing board at our house just came out when she wrote her memoirs this year. Apparently a very prominent Canadian Suffragette (Nellie McClung) was a member of Mom’s church, so her dad insisted that Mom invite Nellie to her (first) wedding. Mom isn’t sure if Nellie came, but she remembers being given a $25 cheque (this was 1952 so that was a LOT of money). She sat on the money for a while then used it to buy an ironing board to iron her new husband’s shirts for work. Her story is that it was about 30 years later that she was ironing my Dad’s shirts (kids all gone so no more ironing labourers) when she realized that she used the money from a Woman’s Libber to buy an iron. I guess she laughed until she had to sit down, the (sorry about this ) irony….
Excellent stories and support, thank you all so much. I moved house last June. This is only the fourth time I have ironed, so I am resisting most nagging by my sister to iron more stuff. (Jeans. Just…why?????)
Ecoteri: that story shall be repeated in England this weekend. Yay, Katy: we’ve got pen pals across the ocean!
@Denise, oh, so glad you liked the Nellie McClung Ironing Board story. Since it showed up in her memoirs this year, I have been quietly chuckling about every once in a while…. I also have asked for the ironing board when Mom doesn’t want it anymore, which resulted in a huffy side-eye look from Mom and a comment that “You are putting your name on everything, what if someone else wants the ironing board?” (I just about split myself holding in my guffaws at THAT)….
I went to private school growing up and was required to wear a uniform. As was the fashion of the day, this included a pleated skirt. When I was a teenager, my mother thought I should learn how to iron by ironing my uniforms for the week every Sunday. It was pure torture to iron 5 pleated skirts and blouses along with matching sweaters. To this day, I only iron when I have to and when I worked, I sent as much as I could to the laundry. This was truly the only thing that my mother ever did that I really thought was terrible.
I hate ironing as well and mostly do it now for small sewing projects. DH had suit and tie jobs for a number of years and I would occasionally iron his shirts for him when he was busy, but he was good about doing them himself. He liked them starched to death, which I had trouble getting right. For myself, I have perfected the smooth out while damp and hang to dry method.
My problem isn’t so much the ironing, though that gets old quickly, but the setting-up-the-board and plugging in the iron. Seems like too much hassle.
I indirectly understand your sink faucet coil issue. On my last iron, the on-off switch was on the top of the handle, right where one would rest one’s thumb when using it. Seriously? No one tried it out before manufacturing it, or else did so holding it with only four fingers and not the thumb?
I thought man in white van as you did not say white man in a van. I’m pretty sure no one else thought the color referred to the driver.
My husband is sick with a bad cold. I used stuff on hand and made him homemade chili and toast served with a glass of cranberry juice, which hit all his needs for something hot, spicy, scratchy and tart. We
Made another pan of apple-raisin baked oatmeal for breakfasts.
Rack dried more laundry. Made a pitcher of iced tea to get me through a day of chores. Mended a thrifted sweater.
1. I also took my friend to lunch for her birthday. She chose an inexpensive local diner which was inexpensive. I ordered water with my meal.
2. I checked my gas buddy app for the least expensive gas that was on my route.
3. I made too much goulash yesterday. My mom has too much tuna casserole so we traded some of each.
4. I took my Mom for a drive in the country. I drive a hybrid so very little gas and it makes her so happy.
5. I followed Katy’s cut up onions and put them in the freezer. My whole bag was sprouting. I’m going to stop buying bags and just buy one or two at a time.
I should have proof read that comment. I followed Katy’s example and cut up onions for the freezer.
Well, Jill A, I did have an irresistible mental vision of you following Katy’s onions into the freezer. But thanks for the correction. 🙂
Me too: “Jill A: The Onion Stalker”. Multi-layered tale of obsession….
1. I picked up my freebie from Sephora for my birthday.
2. Attended a Master Gardener meeting which is always great fun, and brough home 6 pieces of donuts/danish for my husband. Hostess didn’t want to be left with all the leftovers.
3. Walked at the local lake, annual membership $69. Well worth it, as we also kayak there.
4. Made English flapjacks to send down to my kids 4 hours away (someone was driving down that way so they took them for me)
5. Painted small bookcase and ordered legs for it on ebay. This piece has served many purposes over the years and my husband made it originally. Love to repurpose.
Saving $317 is not a tiny frugal thing! Way to go, Mom!
I sold two items on eBay this week. I am slowly getting through my items that I bought for resale months ago, but never listed. It feels good to pack these items up and send them along the way. It also feels good to watch my mad money account grow.
My garden club had workshop given by Master Gardeners on growing caladiums and orchids. It was free to attend. We were given several caladium bulbs of a newish variety called the Miss Muffet which has a large pink and green leaf. Florida is supposedly the Caladium Capital of the world. This is what they look like https://www.caladiumsflorida.com/products.asp?cat=3
Yesterday was yard trash day. When I was walking the dog, I saw a large stem from a fiddle fig laying on the top of my neighbor’s yard trash bucket. I brought it home to propagate. I cut it right below a node, put a little rooting hormone on the bottom, and placed it in a vase in my dining room. I have had success doing this before.
I made a use-it-up dinner with limited success. I had two blocks of rice ramen in the pantry and the end of a bag of Asian veggies in the freezer as well as some spinach. I decided to make a peanut sauce and add a little chicken— Pad Thai style. I could not find my peanut sauce recipe so I chose a random one online. The consistency seemed fine when I was making it, but when I went to serve my plate, this conglomeration had seized up into a giant Ramen Noodle ball. It was difficult to eat, but very tasty. Of course, there are leftovers perhaps I’ll try adding a little chicken broth then pan frying the noodles in a little sesame oil before eating them next time.
* I also filled out my paperwork online to receive a rebate for my contact lens.
* I requested reimbursement for something I purchased for a club to which I belong
* I returned my library book and picked up some magazines that were in the share bin.
* I used my YMCA membership today. I listened to a book on my library’s Libby App while I worked out.
@Bee, Are you by any chance near Jacksonville? I’m a master gardener in St Augustine and one of my friends gives talks on caladiums and orchids.
We are neighbors!
Also, I believe this talk was given by your friend. Does she have a collection of orchids?
Hi, neighbor!
Yes she does collect orchids .
I know she and a friend have been giving these talks.
1. I found a nickel on the floor at work. That’s found change two days in a row.
2. DH is working out at the local gym which costs us $10 a month. Well worth it for his health and wellbeing.
3. My frugal guy couldn’t help but tell me he had $14 off at CVS so I got not one but two boxes of chocolates for Valentines Day. Trust me, they will not go to waste.
4. My cat had a wound on his forehead which I treated successfully with Bacitracin. All cleared up and no vet visit.
5. We went out to eat for our anniversary using a gift card we received at Christmas.
1. Used my free birthday breakfast to meet up with a friend. Brought my own beverage. Tipped the server 18%
2. Hit the goodwill before meet up and purchased a skirt and 3 tops for $24. 3 were new with tags
3. Sold 2 items online
4. Used Costco rewards to buy dog food
5. Gave hubby a choice of 3 opened hairstyling products and he wisely choose one.
Well, I’m certain I had some tiny wins but they were just wiped out by my dropping a $13 bottle of non-alcoholic wine while getting out of the car in our garage. I’ve been gradually amassing a variety of beverages to be party-ready. What a mess that was to clean up. I’m so annoyed I’m not going to replace it; luckily another bottle I bought survived the drop. If I need more, I’ll buy less expensive sparkling juice. Cheers!
That reminds me of an incident when I was married. My former husband had (unbeknownst to me) bought a very expensive bottle of wine – at then £:$ exchange rates, probably about $100. For reasons surpassing understanding, (or just being a sneak, so actually absolutely par for the course), he put it on the floor of the garage, under a decorating drop cloth which just lay in a scrunched up heap. His best friend came to stay, they were in the garage working on my ex’s motorbike, when I brought out cups of tea to them. Friend picks up the drop cloth and shakes it out to fold it, so I don’t trip on it. Unfortunately, expensive wine bottle goes flying through the air and smashed against the garage wall in. My then-husband was furious but his best friend said sorry but that’s your fault. What fool does that?? Husband backed down. If it had been me, I would have been screamed at for days and nights about my stupidity. But boy, that Cabernet Sauvignon made the garage smell lovely for years. I retreated to the kitchen and LMAO.
I had a bottle of red wine fly off the conveyor belt at the grocery store. It indeed made a huge mess. I’m sorry that you had to deal with that.
1. cut open a lotion bottle to get the last out – I put the lotion in a small jar that will be easy to use.
2. convinced partner, who did not want to cook tonight, that we could rally enough to make frozen gyoza and a quick stir fry of veg.
3. will have partner turn off hulu now that football season is over.
1. Went to a meeting regarding building more trails for hikers and cross country skiers. Someone brought eight donuts for the group, each in its own plastic baggie. No one in this group thought it was weird that I asked for the baggies to reuse for poop bags. Two unclaimed donuts were left, so I brought those home for the husband.
2. Enthusiastically accepted a friend’s offer to take the free year’s subscription to the New Yorker magazine, that came as part of her yearly paid subscription.
3. Cleaning out fridge I spied a bottle of Bailey’s someone gave me for Christmas. Neither the husband nor I have ever tasted an alcohol we liked the flavor of (and, believe me, in college and grad school I tried) so I gave the bottle to the New Yorker magazine friend.
4. Traded four jars of zuke relish I canned in early August for two jars of canned smoked salmon. I got the better deal I think. I know this guy and how meticulous he is in canning meats and seafood (Alaska consistently leads the states in the number of food borne botulism cases) otherwise I would not eat someone else’s canned salmon.
5. Had some partial bags of berries in the freezer. Pureed them and turned them into popsicles for somewhat healthy desserts over the next few weeks.
I love that you asked for the donut bags. Any reuse is bonus for plastic. And look, you got a two-donut bonus as well, just for asking for the empties! made me laugh.
1. Found a dime in a parking lot but the vending machines were a bust this week. My dad (who shares his findings with me via text messages) likens the vending machines to playing the slots, only there is no loss.
2,3,4 & 5 I got nothing. Been a bit speedy lately.
Very happy that my library now offers access to Hoopla, which has been a boom for movies and audiobooks. One movie I ALMOST rented from Shmeff Shmazos’ company because I missed it in the theater and couldn’t find it anywhere else.
1. I haven’t gone anywhere the last few days so no gas spent.
2. My son came over to do his laundry and visit me and the dog. He brought me some containers that he took home food in. I helped him go over his IRA that he added money to for 2024. I wish my parents had told us to invest young. Making sure that get as much compounding interest as possible. I sent him home with cookies YD and I made. My waist line doesn’t need them.
3. Hubby got a spaghetti squash a few weeks ago for some reason. He kept saying he was going to make something with it. I made spaghetti squash lasagna with it for lent. He kept saying how good it was.
4. Cleaned out several kitchen cabinets. Sugar packets were put in with the sugar. Hotel coffee packs were put into the compost. I have a few items that are my son’s that I will give to him next time I see him.
5. Pulled eggs out of the freezer to use this weekend. When I went to Aldi earlier this weeks, eggs had jumped up a $1 to $3.12 a dozen. I always freeze a bunch when it is summer and they are cheap.
75, solo, living in inner city sub tropical, Brisbane, Australia, in a vertical retirement village( 79 units) Happy to answer questions about absolutely anything, I always enjoy the insights you all give me into life as it is lived, American style! My village has a giveaway table beside the bins, where people leave out items that are surplus to requirements, but still usable, such a useful idea! I scored a long heat pack, something I have vaguely wanted but not bought. We also have bins for cans, for bottles, for recycling, and compost! Even air drying facilities! ( Google Hills Hoist!)
I love that you have a convenient giveaway table in your village and that you have a convenient way to compost. I googled Hills Hoist – that’s cool, too!
Hello from Banff, Canada.
My last night here before I go back to my home in Central Valley, California. The first things everybody says about Banff is it is beautiful.
Yes, it is.
Then they say the people are extremely polite.
Yes – although I don’t know if I actually met a Canadian. Everyone working Sunshine Village and Lake Louise ski resort is Australian, New Zealander or British. Still all very nice.
Not much was frugal about this trip since I had planned it way in advanced with a buddy.
However I felt I was a good steward of resources.
1. I only purchased 1 or 2 meals out. The rest were snacks I had bought, nibbles offered free at a spa ( ooh the massage) and some oatmeal packets I had from a free breakfast. Perfect.
2. I didn’t ski the two of the four days I paid for on an ikon pass because the snow at Lake Louise was terrible. Passes will save. The hiking was fantastic and free ice crampons were given out by the Fairmont hotel. They also had free exercise classes, , a free guide to hike up to the peak, and a free ice skate rentals I did NOT use. ( I am willing to hurt myself skiing but not ice skating.)
3. iF you haven’t read the Nick Pirog 3:00 am series, you should. It is hysterical. He has 4 more books that he offers for whatever you want to pay. Super cool. I downloaded them paying 6.99 to him rather than to Amazon.
4. Buddy paid for the rental car since I booked two hotel nights using my IHG reward points.
5. There was a mouse in our ski lodge room. Management gave us a super cool souvenir glass filled with chocolate which I used as another meal.
Here are a few things I treated myself to which were incredibly luxurious but totally worth the money.
1. 2 hour private lesson which completely changed how I ski.
2. A new ski helmet and gloves because I accidentally brought my kid’s old helmet which didn’t fit and then dropped my gloves into the toilet. Yeah no. I tossed the latter and donated the former.
As I had written last week, I had been coming off a depressive cycle and didn’t really want to travel. I am glad I did. I have new perspective just from new surroundings. It wasn’t a super easy or relaxing vacay but the physical exercise was crucial to helping me get back in balance. I still can’t imagine going back to school on Tuesday. I promised my husband I wouldn’t think about it until I get home. I kept my promise and will be grateful to get back to my life tomorrow
Thanks for sharing. We have a weekend with friends coming up and I’ve been trying to get excited about the outdoor winter sports without too much success. Your description of your activities has me looking forward to “playing” in the snow. One friend is going to show me how to cross country ski.
Glad you’re feeling better too and your vacation had a positive effect on you. I’ve found sometimes the things I don’t want to do are actually exactly what I needed. Not always! But sometimes. Best of luck in school.
I am so pleased for you that your travel and physical activities (and pampering!) was a positive experience. When I am feeling low, I find it hard to get up and do… yet that often is what can shift my state-of-mind toward the light. Good for you to keep your eye on the future – as you have done this enough to trust there will be a swing back toward a happier place.
As a Canadian, I am always amused by the Australians, New Zealanders, and British ‘kids’ who gravitate to our ski hills and Ocean resorts. Most Surf instructors at Tofino/Long Beach on Vancouver Island are from a long way away. Our kids go THERE for their working vacations.
I can assure you, though, that most Canadians you meet in non-tourist towns are pretty polite. And many of us think where we live is beautiful… I sure do
1. With #2 Son home again, I am eating better. Today I finally got (yesterday’s planned) stir-fy (attempt to empty the fridge version) assembled. Chicken drumsticks were on sale today, so I got a pan of those (homemade shake and bake – which I make in quantity) and 5 of the last of my potatoes that aren’t quite sprouting into the oven. Also a pan of cake using a cake mix bought on discount. Discounts are only a deal if I use what I bought… I know it has some Ultra processed ingredients, however it was on my shelf, and I figure the egg and milk and love I add helps to even things out.
I then cut up many veggies, but I mis-timed when the darn kid would come home. He walked in starving, collected the chicken and potatoes and was going to head over to his place without the veggies!!!! Clever me, I started stir-frying then got him to tell me about his day. Presto! Veggies cooked and in his to-go containers (he lives in the loft in the Barn on my property – so often will eat the food but not always at my crowded and messy table). YAY!
My plate was 4/5 veggies, 1/5 chicken – and so satisfying.
2. I read the grocery flyer last night, and circled the really good deals, so when shopping tonight for the chicken I picked up the other loss-leader items,. This took some searching, on aisle ends and corner displays, however the store staff are great – I didn’t give up until I found all my stuff, I wasn’t tempted by anything else, even the discount valentines chocolates.
3. In December I got a discounted 3 months Kindle Unlimited subscription, as there was a series I was wanting and my library doesn’t have it. I have now set up a notification on Amazon so it doesn’t renew without at least a warning. I’m reading like mad these days, so kindle is a great resource, but only if I use it. I likely will cancel once the 3 months are up, and restart next fall if there are books that I am wanting. My buddy has shared her Blinkist app with me (her purchase gave her one to share!!) and I find it is a great place to peruse some books I don’t want to take the time to fully read – only one of the books I have read (you can read or listen) made me want more. Most ‘business-help’ or ‘self-help’ books, IMHO, could be 20 page pamphlets.
4. I had a dentist appointment yesterday, and they often are running late. I popped in and asked if I had time to go to the eye doctor office across the hall, and they said “sure”. I needed to get two tiny screws tightened (my tiny screwdrivers aren’t tiny enough) and though it would take 2 min. 10 min later I was feeling pretty pressed for time!!! It turned out they replaced both of the nose pads, as well as did a thorough clean and tighten of ALL the tiny screws – for FREE! It is my eye doctor office, but the glasses are a Costco pair I bought at least 4 years ago, so I felt a bit brazen to ask for the tighten. Now I feel like I won a door prize! And no problems during my dental cleaning, mostly paid for by my benefit plan. WIN!
Ecoteri, I did the 3 months Kindle unlimited last fall. Was having surgery, so read tons.
Loved having it, but not enough to pay 11.99 A month
That chair might be really nice, if it was well made, but between the wonked up upholstery and the odd way the back of the chair is attached, I admit that I’m with your son on this one!
hugs,
Janice
The chair is metal, so I think that’s what you’re seeing with the way the back is attached.